goldkin: goldkin tsa whuh (tsa whuh)
[personal profile] goldkin
This post is a signal boost for others that may have been included in Zig Zag Productions' latest email campaign for their documentary on otherkin. As others have mentioned, I advise caution, given their choice of affiliates and contact methods (for, among other things, the current Whitney Houston documentary).

Of course, we've heard about this before, and the current email states the production is now for "a documentary for a UK television channel following the lives of Otherkin." The timing and this change of phrasing implies they've lost the Animal Planet bid for this production. Which seems reasonable, honestly -- I don't expect our lives to be that strikingly different from your preferred average Joe, except for what goes on on the inside and what folks like [livejournal.com profile] lupabitch went out of their way to document.

I'm considering giving them the benefit of the doubt at this point, throwing them a bone by linking [livejournal.com profile] waywind's terrific Otherkin Timeline and asking for a list of questions that can be anonymously addressed to the community. I'm dubious on their current call to speak to people over the telephone and document me for fairly obvious reasons of personal and professional security, but I'm not above giving them something to talk about in aggregate, as a judge of character in how seriously involved they actually are one year later.

We'll see. For now, I'm mostly documenting my thoughts for others, on the off chance they're helpful.

Date: 2012-02-15 07:03 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-02-15 08:38 pm (UTC)
tayruu: (neutral)
From: [personal profile] tayruu
The phrase "F*** you, I‘m a dragon" has been attributed to Starblade, but Baxil points out that
there‘s no evidence for this.

I remember reading the post that this came from some time back (not when it was posted mind, IIRC I read it last year.) and I believe someone commenting later into the article mocking the original poster (Starblade?) said it. As a result there's a swarming mass of "omg this is where it came from?" replies to it.

... wait maybe I should direct this to Waywind.

Date: 2012-02-15 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I think that the important first step is to learn to know the crew that would be doing this documentary. Find out if they are respectful, genuinely interested, and being read up in advance what being otherkin is about. I also think that central people to the otherkin community that are willing to step up should be found, because I have before seen documentaries gone wrong because only the extreme cases were portrayed.

Date: 2012-02-15 08:47 pm (UTC)
etath: (Default)
From: [personal profile] etath
That should have been me. Silly DW for logging me out all the time. :\

Date: 2012-02-15 09:16 pm (UTC)
ext_412763: (Default)
From: [identity profile] tysharina.livejournal.com
Please excuse me while I run a mile to fetch a barge pole I wouldn't touch this thing with :) (I hope those sayings are not *too* British!)

Various people have asked to interview me for otherkin documentaries since 2003 and I've turned them all down. I've no desire to end up on a tv show which ends up making a mockery of my beliefs. Besides, they are MY beliefs, I have no need or desire to share them with the general tv-viewing public.

But hey, that's just my personal view of it.

Date: 2012-02-15 09:28 pm (UTC)
etath: (Default)
From: [personal profile] etath
I think that from our point of view, the interest would not lay in spilling out our innermost beliefs, but perhaps rather reach out to other people who do not know about the otherkin communities from before, or who got a very wrong view of it, and otherwise make people aware of that it exists. But of course, it has to be someone who are willing to be exposed to some degree. :\

Date: 2012-02-15 10:23 pm (UTC)
etath: (Default)
From: [personal profile] etath
I agree with you, I had a look about Zig Zag productions and think they are not suitable from our point of view. :\ If there ever would be an otherkin documentary, I think it should be similar to a documentary made by the Norwegian state-funded tv production company NRK. Their intent was not to sell, but to educate, and it worked very well for the furry fandom, being well balanced and all. Quite unlike furry documentaries I have seen on commercial channels, that has been more sensational than anything else.

Though, it is curious they are persistent on getting into the otherkin community. As you say, though, if they see that members of the otherkin community are fairly average to the rest of the population, they might loose interest. :)

Date: 2012-02-15 10:20 pm (UTC)
avia: A sea creature looking very shocked, with the text "Humans are among us" (humans are among us!)
From: [personal profile] avia
I have been talking to a friend and thinking, it might be a good idea to make our own documentary? I don't know how people in the community feel about that, though.

Date: 2012-02-16 12:03 am (UTC)
arethinn: glowing green spiral (Default)
From: [personal profile] arethinn
I think it might not be a bad idea, but it didn't get great reception when I pitched it at [livejournal.com profile] otherkin.

Date: 2012-02-16 12:16 am (UTC)
avia: Picture of numbers, shapes, and stars falling in a night sky. (falling numbers)
From: [personal profile] avia
We are in Southern California and I know you are in the California area. If you would be interested we could definitely talk more about it, obviously we would want to find a few more people close to the area who could also be part.

Then, I think between us all we could make a draft of what kind of things we would want to include, what we would want to say and show, etc. maybe in an email list?

Date: 2012-02-16 12:47 am (UTC)
arethinn: feminine face with green eyes and pointed ears, wearing a headpiece of leaves with a seven-pointed star (otherkin (faerie glass))
From: [personal profile] arethinn
I'm up in the south SF bay, yeah. (You folks aren't coming to PantheaCon this weekend by any chance?) But I don't think I really have the necessary skills or resources to be very useful to such a project... more was just throwing it out to the populace in the hopes that someone who did might pick it up.

Date: 2012-02-16 08:47 am (UTC)
terrana: (Default)
From: [personal profile] terrana
I'm just glad they don't know how to contact me. It makes the while affair that much easier to ignore.

Date: 2012-02-18 01:43 am (UTC)
baphijmm: (Default)
From: [personal profile] baphijmm
I am amused that, as an actor who's been in several films and stage performances already and entirely comfortable with the camera, I've not been approached for these sorts of things ever. I guess I just slide under the radar. :P

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